Proving knowledge-saving Methods in todays Failed States

Re: knowledge-saving Methods: Change Org

Postby tahanson43206 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:49 pm

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Re: Proving knowledge-saving Methods in todays Failed States

Postby germanforestgump » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:19 am

Thank You very much!

News from sweden:
A voluntary private initiative will rescue refugees by #letthemfly:
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Urgent! Spread Infos about Toxic Mushrooms!

Postby germanforestgump » Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:53 pm

There is a very urgent knowledge which should transfered to refugees as fast as possible:

The danger from toxic mushrooms!

Several refugees already had eaten mushroms seeming similar to eadible species in their homelands.
Some are died or had been very ill and it was very difficult to rescue them.

Please help to spread the information in your environment! ... 2015-09-19
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Humanitary Summit Istanbul 2016:Newthinking Humanity

Postby germanforestgump » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:55 pm

The first "World Humanitary Summit", introduced by UN-General Secretary Ban Ki-Moon, will take place in Istanbul in May 23./24. 2016.

For this event, the famous NGO "Doctors of the World" have made a concept paper, suggesting the complete re-organisation of the system of crisis intervention!
Because most finance ressources are going to the big international governmental and non-governmental organisations - but they are to far away, to slow, to bureaucratic and not effective - only 3% of the ressources reach the peoples, often with interventions which do not fits to the needs of them.

But it are the local organisations which are at the place and have the knowledge for make the most effective first response!

"...local partners have the in-depth context knowledge which enables the design and delivery of effective interventions, directly meeting needs as identified by the local affected communities themselves.
This is the unique knowledge that should be prioritised and allowed to influence."

Thus the world needs a reformed systeme to supply these local actors with the necessary financial, technical and advisory ressources: ... erment.pdf
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Flassbeck on the economic consequences of the refugee crisis

Postby germanforestgump » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:09 pm

This is a very important article,
pointing at the necessarity to finance qualification and integration of refugees by deficit spending: ... liticians/
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The Refugee Phrasebook

Postby germanforestgump » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:19 pm

"Welome to the Refugee Phrasebook!
We are building an open collection of useful words and phrases for refugees who just arrived.
The Refugee Phrasebook is a multilingual tool that provides basic useful vocabulary related to the most common immidiate needs.":
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Syrian children without school

Postby germanforestgump » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:46 pm

"Human Rights Watch" presents a study about the most big scandal of the syrian refugee crisis:
Millions of syrian children don´t have the possibility to go to school.
Instead many of them have to go to work to support their families.
Eleven year old boys are working 12 hours every day in turkish textile fabrics:

And in face of those inacceptable circumstances, the german minister of inner de Maziere will cancel the possibility for refugees to bring their families to Germany - and many of the "Christian" "Democratic" Union applaudes!

Did nobody told them, that a "lost generation" of refugee children will generate much more costs and risks for the future than even the most ambitioned integration program?
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Too young to wed in Guatemala:

Postby germanforestgump » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:24 pm

This report shows the drama of very young pregnant girls in Guatemala, which were married beginning at age of eleven and gave birth between age 12 until 17: ... .html?_r=0

Too early wedding and motherhood causes many severe problems:
- risks of domestic violence and sex abuse,
- interruption of school education,
- risks for the health of girls and their babies,
- high mortality of too young mothers and their too weak babies,
- a whole life in uneducated poverty...

For this reason, Guatemala just raises the legal marriage age for girls from 14 up to 18.

But for to implement this in real life, Guatemala has to be supported:

Carrying the Knowledge about the bad consequences of too early marriage and pregnancy in every little village!
Carrying the Knowledge how to avoid unwished pregnancies to all young people!
Educating specially all the men to take over their responsibility on family planning!
Access to family planning methods for all poor people!
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Re: Proving knowledge-saving Methods in todays Failed States

Postby Anylength » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:51 am

I think the idea of translating "the Knowledge" into arabic language is missing the point.
The knowledge was written to re-boot society with basic knowledge that might not have survived an apocalyptic event.
I think this discussion is way too political in that it is heading toward "trying to prevent an apocalyptic event" by trying to educate Islamic children so they won't follow the path of "Islamic state" and thus create an apocalyptic even themselves.
Which is of no use at all if 90 % of the population is wiped out by an asteroid or new type of bird flu.
Those people have neither the know how nor the resources, nor do they live in a land that lends itself for survival. Nor will they be permitted to learn anything useful while they are governed the way they are in the belief system that they hold dear.
It would be better to concentrate our resources to educate those who are willing and able to re-boot society.
I can't see much hope for some people in those counties in case of a catastrophic event other than their total isolation in some out of the way village which keeps them separate from any viral infection, or sheer luck for being far enough away from an impact site.
Anyway, "the knowledge" was not written to change political or religious society.
The Knowledge is a great book and can do with improvement to keep more knowledge going after such an event. But I think it's best if each reader concentrates on spreading the news by donating copies to their local libraries, school libraries, and gives the book away as presents to all their friends and family members. We need to start in our own circle and move slowly outward. We cannot start some place else and try to show kids in Afghanistan how to survive an apocalyptic event when they are not even allowed to read or can read. This is not our purpose here. That is the purpose of international organisations devoted to spread literacy in the world.
I have been a member of many organisations and the successful ones have only one purpose. If they take on too many purposes they lose their vision and fail. Every time. We need to stick to one purpose, too.
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Re: Proving knowledge-saving Methods in todays Failed States

Postby germanforestgump » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:34 pm

Dear Anylength!
Many thanks for Your regardworthy arguments.
I am glad to see that i do not write words in a desert sand.
I need intellectual sparring partners who helps me to see the matters from another point of view.

I have also the impression that Mr. Dartnell wrote "The Knowledge" under exclusion of political and philosophical aspects.
But i have a broader definition about politics:
In that moment, when more than one human will survive doomsday and comes to interaction with other survivors, it is not possible to avoid doing politics.
If two ore more astronauts will try to colonise space, they can not avoid politics.

So i miss in the book the Knowledge how to build society.
I hope he might take the challenge one time for a second book.

In the meantime i ask me what to do for spreading "The Knowledge" to maximise the chance, that it could be found and understood by some few survivors anywhere on the planet.
We can not foresee where and who they will be and what language they will speak.
So the translation of "The Knowledge" in as many languages as possible would maximise the chance.

But who will invest his ressources into the potential benefit of unknown people in a far future?
So i try to connect the effort of spreading "The Knowledge" with actual benefits for me, You and all people which live actual with us on the planet.
Creating win-win-situations which motivate us by actual benefits for us and for concrete people we know or can easily get to know.
Could there be a greater motivation investing in efforts who can possibly pushing doomsday more forward into a far future?

For me, those children in countrys, regardless of under islamic or other influence, are not far away.
I have very ambitioned arabic and kurdish neigbours from Syria with extremly curious, knowledge-hungry and talented children, who live every day in fear what will happen to their relatives which stay in the war regions.
Every day who passes without education for those children is a wasted day.

It is not my role saying, i have to spend access to "The Knowledge" to them or not.
They are those who can read "The Knowledge" themselves and teach me, whether the book is able to do the job for which it is written for.
Is it able to transport Knowledge over a doomsday situation?
How should the concept be pimped to do its job better?

For me, i see this as a reality check for Mr. Dartnells theory.
We self are those who will have the profit, if we proove the concept of "The Knowledge" in a dialogue with peoples, who actually survived a doomsday scenario and who have themselves the biggest interest to get a qualified education for their children!

It is me; I have no patience to wait until they learned english or german good enough to debate the book with me!
(Or until i may succeed learning arabic good enough...)

You have mentioned the important point, that one-goal-organisations are more effective than those, who scatter their ressources on too many themes.
I agree - but i see the possibility of a form of specialisation and work sharing:
This topic can be seen as specialised on giving a survey on many one-goal-organisations, which concentrate on a specific challenge.
This survey can be an offer to everybody to say: "Wow, this single organisation is exactly that, where i will invest my engagement!"
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