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Seven Sustainable Technologies from JMGreer

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:41 pm
by Dave Z
Seven Sustainable Technologies from John Michael Greer

John Michael Greer argues that the future will be increasingly post- or de-Industrial, a position which more or less at odds with industrial reboot. His prognosis and reboot agree in their anticipation of a period of much reduced capacity, however, and on several technologies useful in this phase and beyond.

These technologies are quoted from this post: http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2014/01/seven-sustainable-technologies.html. They represent relatively recent technological innovations which are sustainable in the sense of requiring few and common resources, little and simple infrastructure and may be scaled from individual to society wide practice.

While these technologies are each presented in The Knowledge, I find their grouping and emphases to be useful. Number seven, Computer-Free Mathematics, strikes me worthy of inclusion as a fundamental technology for reboot, which is perhaps understated in TK?

Dave Z

Greer writes:

I’ve identified seven technological suites that can be sustained on a very limited resource base, produce goods or services of value even under dark age conditions, and could contribute mightily to the process of rebuilding if they get through the next five centuries or so.

1. Organic intensive gardening. I’ve commented before that when future historians look back on the twentieth century, the achievement of ours that they’ll consider most important is the creation of food growing methods that build soil fertility rather than depleting it and are sustainable on a time scale of millennia. The best of the current systems of organic intensive gardening require no resource inputs other than locally available biomass, hand tools, and muscle power, and produce a great deal of food from a relatively small piece of ground. Among the technologies included in this suite, other than the basics of soil enhancement and intensive plant and animal raising, are composting, food storage and preservation, and solar-powered season extenders such as cold frames and greenhouses.

2. Solar thermal technologies. Most of the attention given to solar energy these days focuses on turning sunlight into electricity, but electricity isn’t actually that useful in terms of meeting basic human needs. Far more useful is heat, and sunlight can be used forheat with vastly greater efficiencies than it can be turned into electrical current. Water heating, space heating, cooking, food preservation, and many other useful activities can all be done by concentrating the rays of the sun or collecting solar heat in an insulated space. Doing these things with sunlight rather than wood heat or some other fuel source will take significant stress off damaged ecosystems while meeting a great many human needs.

3. Sustainable wood heating. In the Earth’s temperate zones, solar thermal technologies can’t stand alone, and a sustainable way to produce fuel is thus high up on the list of necessities. Coppicing, a process that allows repeated harvesting of fuel wood from the same tree, and other methods of producing flammable biomass without burdening local ecosystems belong to this technological suite; so do rocket stoves and other high-efficiency means of converting wood fuel into heat.

4. Sustainable health care. Health care as it’s practiced in the world’s industrial nations is hopelessly unsustainable, dependent as it is on concentrated energy and resource inputs and planetwide supply chains. As industrial society disintegrates, current methods of health care will have to be replaced by methods that require much less energy and other resources, and can be put to use by family members and local practitioners. Plenty of work will have to go into identifying practices that belong in this suite, since the entire field is a minefield of conflicting claims issuing from the mainstream medical industry as well as alternative health care; the sooner the winnowing gets under way, the better.

5. Letterpress printing and its related technologies. One crucial need in an age of decline is the ability to reproduce documents from before things fell apart. Because the monasteries of early medieval Europe had no method of copying faster than monks with pens, much of what survived the fall of Rome was lost during the following centuries as manuscripts rotted faster than they could be copied. In Asia, by contrast, hand-carved woodblock printing allowed documents to be mass produced during the same era; this helps explain why learning, science, and technology recovered more rapidly in post-Tang dynasty China and post-Heian Japan than in the post-Roman West. Printing presses with movable type were made and used in the Middle Ages, and inkmaking, papermaking, and bookbinding are equally simple, so these are well within the range of craftspeople in the deindustrial dark ages ahead.

6. Low-tech shortwave radio. The ability to communicate over long distances at a speed faster than a horse can ride is another of the significant achievements of the last two centuries, and deserves to be passed onto the future. While the scientific advances needed to work out the theory radio required nearly three hundred years of intensive study of physics, the technology itself is simple—an ordinarily enterprising medieval European or Chinese alchemist could easily have put together a working radio transmitter and receiver, along with the metal-acid batteries needed to power them, if he had known how. The technical knowledge in the amateur radio community, which has begun to get interested in low-tech, low-power methods again after a long flirtation with high-end technologies, could become a springboard to handbuilt radio technologies that could keep going after the end of industrial society.

7. Computer-free mathematics. Until recently, it didn’t take a computer to crunch the numbers needed to build a bridge, navigate a ship, balance profits against losses, or do any of ten thousand other basic or not-so-basic mathematical operations; slide rules, nomographs, tables of logarithms, or the art of double-entry bookkeeping did the job. In the future, after computers stop being economically viable to maintain and replace, those same tasks will still need to be done, but the knowledge of how to do them without a computer is at high risk of being lost. If that knowledge can be gotten back into circulation and kept viable as the computer age winds down, a great many tasks that will need to be done in the deindustrial future will be much less problematic.

Re: Seven Sustainable Technologies from JMGreer

PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:07 pm
by Cererean
If you can build a radio, surely you can built a relay? So we wouldn't need to forgo computers entirely.

Re: Seven Sustainable Technologies from JMGreer

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:50 am
by Dave Z
Cererean wrote:If you can build a radio, surely you can built a relay? So we wouldn't need to forgo computers entirely.


Hi Cererean,

STAND BACK!!! I have a SLIDE RULE, and I know how to use it!! :ugeek: Do I live up to my emoji?

You're right that several reboot technologies could be used to build computers. But the original of all stripes involved considerable learning curves, large team efforts and war incentivised budgets. The resulting computers were finicky, not very powerful and not at all portable. Their user interfaces were terrible right through the punch card era (where I got my start).

My guess is that, should the reboot be successful, a computer with power comparable to even a hand calculator from the 1970s would be a long way off. If that's correct, the non-computerized means of calculation would have to get us there?

Dave Z