20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:08 pm

Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation
20170605 Reference #1 Page lx

On this day in 1520, the Magellan Expedition continued a wait for favorable weather at Puerto San Julian.

The voyage of exploration resumed on August 24, so there were three months of Southern wintry weather to endure.

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Google provides a "Quick Fact" about the port where the expedition spent the next three months:
Begin Quotation:
Puerto San Julián is a natural harbour in Patagonia in the Santa Cruz Province of Argentina located at 49°18′S 67°43′W. In the days of sailing ships it formed a stopping point, 180 km south of Puerto Deseado.Wikipedia
End Quotation.

I wondered what the weather might have been like in Magellan's time. It is likely that the expedition log books would have recorded the conditions that the crew endured during the layover, but assuming the weather is comparable today to what it was then, we have this report, from https://www.windfinder.com/webcams/puerto_san_julian

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Wind and weather webcams
Puerto San Julián
Maps
13mph West-Northwest
43°F
Overcast
Data based on our forecast model SUNRISE
9:18 SUNSET
17:40 LOCAL TIME
11:53 am (UTC -3) ELEVATION 62 m
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Antonio Pigafetta reported about this period, on page 12 of Reference #1
Begin Quotation:
We passed two months there without seeing any people.
End Quotation.

According to Wikipedia, the Tehuelche people had a history of over 14,500 years in the region.

Begin Quotation:
The Tehuelche people have a history of over 14,500 years in the region, based on archeological findings.[7] Their pre-Columbian history is divided in three main stages: a stage with highly-sized rock tools, a stage where the use of boleadoras prevailed over the peaked projectiles, and a third one of highly complex rock tools, each one with a specific purpose.[8] The nomadic lifestyle of Tehuelches left scarce archeological evidence of their past.[9]
End Quotation.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:15 pm

Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation
20170612 Reference #1 Page lx

On this day in 1520, the Magellan Expedition continued a wait for favorable weather at Puerto San Julian.

The voyage of exploration resumed on August 24, so there were three months of Southern wintry weather to endure.

***
Google provides a "Quick Fact" about the port where the expedition spent the next three months:
Begin Quotation:
Puerto San Julián is a natural harbour in Patagonia in the Santa Cruz Province of Argentina located at 49°18′S 67°43′W. In the days of sailing ships it formed a stopping point, 180 km south of Puerto Deseado.Wikipedia
End Quotation.

I wondered what the weather might have been like in Magellan's time. It is likely that the expedition log books would have recorded the conditions that the crew endured during the layover, but assuming the weather is comparable today to what it was then, we have this report, from https://www.windfinder.com/webcams/puerto_san_julian

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Wind: 46 mph West
43°F
Sky clear
Report from local weather station at 2:00 pm local time. SUNRISE 9:23 SUNSET 17:38 LOCAL TIME 4:01 pm (UTC -3) ELEVATION 62 m

For winter, those conditions don't sound too bad.

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The reconstructed display of Victoria shows a cow below decks.

In Antonio Pigafetta's report of the voyage, he mentions at one point the expedition leaving a group of men ashore with pigs, which I assume would have been provided for sustenance.

At some point I hope to find a reference showing the provisions loaded back in Spain.

In the meantime, on Page 17 of Reference #1, Antonio Pigaffeta's report reveals what some of the crew were doing during the layover at Port St. Julian.

Begin Quotation: (speaking of members of the crew assigned to recover supplies from the Santiago)...
It was necessary for us to bring them food for two months, while each day supplies from the ship [that was wrecked] were recovered. The journey there was twenty-four leagues long (or one hundred miles), ...
End Quotation.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:45 pm

Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation
20170619 Reference #1 Page lx

On this day in 1520, the Magellan Expedition continued a wait for favorable weather at Puerto San Julian.
For the first two months of this period, members of the crew transported supplies from the wreck of the Santiago. The distance overland was about 100 miles, and the journey took four days.

The voyage of exploration resumed on August 24, so there were three months of Southern wintry weather to endure.

***
Google provides a "Quick Fact" about the port where the expedition spent the next three months:
Begin Quotation:
Puerto San Julián is a natural harbour in Patagonia in the Santa Cruz Province of Argentina located at 49°18′S 67°43′W. In the days of sailing ships it formed a stopping point, 180 km south of Puerto Deseado.Wikipedia
End Quotation.

I wondered what the weather might have been like in Magellan's time. It is likely that the expedition log books would have recorded the conditions that the crew endured during the layover, but assuming the weather is comparable today to what it was then, we have this report, from https://www.windfinder.com/webcams/puerto_san_julian

***
Wind and weather webcams
Puerto San Julián
Maps
Wind 15mph West-Southwest
37°F
Sky clear
Data based on our forecast model
SUNRISE 9:27 SUNSET 17:37 LOCAL TIME 10:43 am (UTC -3) ELEVATION 62 m
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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:38 pm

Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation
20170626 Reference #1 Page lx

On this day in 1520, the Magellan Expedition continued a wait for favorable weather at Puerto San Julian.
For the first two months of this period, members of the crew transported supplies from the wreck of the Santiago. The distance overland was about 100 miles, and the journey took four days.

The voyage of exploration resumed on August 24, so there were three months of Southern wintry weather to endure.

***
Google provides a "Quick Fact" about the port where the expedition spent the next three months:
Begin Quotation:
Puerto San Julián is a natural harbour in Patagonia in the Santa Cruz Province of Argentina located at 49°18′S 67°43′W. In the days of sailing ships it formed a stopping point, 180 km south of Puerto Deseado.Wikipedia
End Quotation.

I wondered what the weather might have been like in Magellan's time. It is likely that the expedition log books would have recorded the conditions that the crew endured during the layover, but assuming the weather is comparable today to what it was then, we have this report, from https://www.windfinder.com/webcams/puerto_san_julian

***
Wind and weather webcams
Puerto San Julián
Maps
Wind 9 mph Southwest
Temperature 32°F Skies Broken
Data based on our forecast model SUNRISE 9:28 SUNSET 17:39 LOCAL TIME 10:29 am (UTC -3) ELEVATION 62 m

This weather report does not include precipitation.

This site does include precipitation:
https://www.yr.no/place/Argentina/Santa ... an_Julian/

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