20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:51 am

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If you are interested, the concept is for a participant to take responsibility for development of a virtual plot on Mars, one kilometer square on the surface, in a community called Sagan City (2018).
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A new branch of the My Hacienda topic is open, in addition to the previously reported Devon Island branch. This new branch considers an implementation of Sagan City (2018) on an island in Norway. This island is inhabited, and international arctic research stations are already encouraged by the government.

In the past week, a variety of topics have been under discussion as usual.

Much of the discussion in the forum this past week has been about the Corona Virus.

There was an update in the EML topic: The length of an electromagnetic launcher on the Moon was given as 71 miles. This launcher would be operated at 2.5 G's, and would deliver passenger and cargo vehicles to Lunar Escape velocity.

In another subtopic, there is an attempt to settle on the features of a subsonic launcher that would provide momentum to a hybrid vehicle with the ability to operate in the atmosphere for part of the journey to orbit.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:30 pm

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A new branch of the My Hacienda topic is open, in addition to the previously reported Devon Island branch. This new branch considers an implementation of Sagan City (2018) on an island in Norway. This island is inhabited, and international arctic research stations are already encouraged by the government.

In the past week, a variety of topics have been under discussion as usual.

Much of the discussion in the forum this past week has been about the Corona Virus.

There was an update in the EML topic: Apparently research has been done on a propulsion method for space vehicles that uses ordinary water as a working fluid, and microwave energy to infuse enough energy into the water to turn it into plasma. Under those conditions, the thruster is reported to deliver an ISP of 800. The implications of this technology are not yet clear.

Meanwhile, a member named "Void" has generated a new technology branch by suggesting the use of balloons/bubbles for delivery of gases to Mars. The idea seems emminently feasible, provided that the balloon or bubble is decelerated to a dead stop with respect to Mars, before it is allowed to descend into the Martian atmosphere under the influence of the gravity of Mars.

By carefully choosing the material used for the balloon, and the gas to be delivered, it should be possible to deliver a wide variety of items to the surface of Mars gently and reliably, and most important, cost effectively.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:01 pm

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If you are interested, the concept is for a participant to take responsibility for development of a virtual plot on Mars, one kilometer square on the surface, in a community called Sagan City (2018).
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In addition, tahanson43206 is participating in a membership outreach campaign at NewMars forum. In an effort to build up a virtual business community focused upon Mars, messages are being send to newly registered members, inviting them to participate in the Hacienda topic.

A new branch of the My Hacienda topic is open, in addition to the previously reported Devon Island branch. This new branch considers an implementation of Sagan City (2018) on an island in Norway. This island is inhabited, and international arctic research stations are already encouraged by the government.

In the past week, a variety of topics have been under discussion as usual.

A member named "Void" has generated a new technology branch by suggesting the use of balloons/bubbles for delivery of gases to Mars. The idea seems emminently feasible, provided that the balloon or bubble is decelerated to a dead stop with respect to Mars, before it is allowed to descend into the Martian atmosphere under the influence of the gravity of Mars.

By carefully choosing the material used for the balloon, and the gas to be delivered, it should be possible to deliver a wide variety of items to the surface of Mars gently and reliably, and most important, cost effectively.

Over the past week, Void has found a material that includes fluorine, apparently suitable for use as a canopy material on Earth. The question to be answered in coming days is whether this material could serve as a shell for a hydrogen balloon for gentle landing of material and perhaps even passengers on the surface of Mars.

It turns out that balloons have long been proposed for exploration of Mars. This is the first time (as far as is known) that anyone has seriously considered using balloons as a safe, reliable, gentle way of delivering material and perhaps even passengers to the surface of Mars. The "secret" (to the extent there is one) is to use Phobos as the base of operations. A utility rocket would deliver the balloon package to a velocity of zero with respect to the surface of Mars, and then return itself to Phobos for the next mission. The balloon package would inflate with hydrogen, and then control its descent (to the extent possible) by adjusting the pressure of hydrogen inside the envelope.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:33 pm

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If you are interested, the concept is for a participant to take responsibility for development of a virtual plot on Mars, one kilometer square on the surface, in a community called Sagan City (2018).
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In addition, tahanson43206 is participating in a membership outreach campaign at NewMars forum. In an effort to build up a virtual business community focused upon Mars, messages are being send to newly registered members, inviting them to participate in the Hacienda topic.

A new branch of the My Hacienda topic is open, in addition to the previously reported Devon Island branch. This new branch considers an implementation of Sagan City (2018) on an island in Norway. This island is inhabited, and international arctic research stations are already encouraged by the government.

In the past week, a variety of topics have been under discussion as usual.

A member named "Void" has generated a new technology branch by suggesting that a steam rocket might be capable of achieving lunar escape velocity if launched from the surface of the Moon.

it turns out that a serious study of this very question was pursued in detail. The method of heating of water mined from the Moon chosen by the authors of the paper was nuclear thermal power. The authors assert in their conclusion that the method they have proposed would be more cost effective than would trying to split water molecules and use them to drive a traditional chemical rocket.

The discussion of Void's proposition has continued, and as of this date, the question of how to heat 5000 kilograms of water while a vehicle is accelerating at 2.5 G's along a 72 mile track is the focus.

The only practical option would appear to be use of electromagnetic radiation delivered (somehow) into the boiler of the moving vehicle. The energy delivered would need to provide impetus for 51.5 kilograms of water to leave the nozzle of the device at a rate sufficient to generate 245000 Newtons of thrust.

Since nothing like this has ever been done, it is not clear that it is possible at all, let alone in 2020.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon May 04, 2020 12:35 am

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A new branch of the My Hacienda topic is open, in addition to the previously reported Devon Island branch. This new branch considers an implementation of Sagan City (2018) on an island in Norway. This island is inhabited, and international arctic research stations are already encouraged by the government.

In the past week, a variety of topics have been under discussion as usual.

Recent NASA announcements about funding vehicles to land on the Moon are of interest.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon May 11, 2020 1:54 am

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A new branch of the My Hacienda topic is open, in addition to the previously reported Devon Island branch. This new branch considers an implementation of Sagan City (2018) on an island in Norway. This island is inhabited, and international arctic research stations are already encouraged by the government.

In the past week, a variety of topics have been under discussion as usual.

Progress by SpaceX in building prototypes of Starship has been of great interest for some time.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon May 18, 2020 4:43 pm

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A new branch of the My Hacienda topic is open, in addition to the previously reported Devon Island branch. This new branch considers an implementation of Sagan City (2018) on an island in Norway. This island is inhabited, and international arctic research stations are already encouraged by the government.

In the past week, a variety of topics have been under discussion as usual.

Progress by SpaceX in building prototypes of Starship has been of great interest for some time.

The big news for the report a breakthrough in developing a safe, reliable, cost-effective transport method to deliver people and cargo to the surface of Mars.

Through an extended process, a vision is evolving of a system based on Phobos, which would extend a tether toward Mars just far enough to allow balloon lifted landing vehicles to release and survive the fall into the atmosphere of Mars. The search for the optimum conbination of materials and procedures is very much underway. If anyone who reads this post in The Knowledge forum is interested in participating, the NewMars forum is open for serious contributors.

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Re: 20160920 Magellan Space City Designer Planet Simulation

Postby tahanson43206 » Mon May 25, 2020 3:44 pm

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In addition, tahanson43206 is participating in a membership outreach campaign at NewMars forum. In an effort to build up a virtual business community focused upon Mars, messages are being send to newly registered members, inviting them to participate in the Hacienda topic.

A new branch of the My Hacienda topic is open, in addition to the previously reported Devon Island branch. This new branch considers an implementation of Sagan City (2018) on an island in Norway. This island is inhabited, and international arctic research stations are already encouraged by the government.

In the past week, a variety of topics have been under discussion as usual.

Through an extended process, a vision is evolving of a system based on Phobos, which would extend a tether toward Mars just far enough to allow balloon lifted landing vehicles to release and survive the fall into the atmosphere of Mars. The search for the optimum conbination of materials and procedures is very much underway. If anyone who reads this post in The Knowledge forum is interested in participating, the NewMars forum is open for serious contributors.

Update 2020/05/25: Work is proceeding nicely on separate tracks, to explore the potential of Void's Conjecture.

In particular, a 3D design for a metal cushion to fit between links of Kevlar thread wound to support many tons of mass is coming along nicely. A visual image should be on display this week.

Meanwhile, a program to compute the requirements for links of a tether chain is coming along. It will provide a total length of kevlar thread that would be required to suspend a tether from Phobos to just above the atmosphere of Mars.

For reference, a single 290 micron diameter Kevlar thread (#92 industry identification) supports in excess of 13 kilogramns.

The bottom most link of the tether will be designed to support 60 metric tons of mass.

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