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206,980,054 km [26.5 km/s] Update Sunday 2024/04/21 12:58 UTC Sun Mars distance
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The post above is about a claim of thrust against Earth's gravity.
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An up-to-date phpBB3 forum is in test mode at Newmars.com/forums - there is a topic created for discussion

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Lewis contacted me to let me know he is (now) aware of recent hacker activity.

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207,630,380 km [26.4 km/s Update Monday 2024/04/08 12:21 UTC Sun Mars distance - A Solar Eclipse will cross the US today

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208,712,517 km [26.3 km/s] Update Monday 2024/03/25 12:23 UTC Sun Mars distance Full Moon last night on Earth

208,804,278 km [26.2 km/s] Update Sunday 2024/03/24 12:05 UTC Sun Mars distance Palm Sunday on Earth

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208,993,328 km [26.2 km/s] Update Friday 2024/03/22 13:52 UTC Sun Mars distance - Skip day is due on Sol 449

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209,393,415 km [26.2 km/s] Update Monday 2024/03/18 12:11 UTC Sun Mars distance

209,498,042 km [26.2 km/s] Update Sunday 2024/03/17 12:24 UTC Sun Mars distance [St. Patrick's Day on Earth]

209,604,335 km [26.2 km/s] Update Saturday 2024/03/16 12:08 UTC Sun Mars distance

209,712,391 km [26.1 km/s] Update Friday 2024/03/15 12:05 UTC Sun Mars distance - Successful test of Starship - On to #4 to finish

209,821,279 km [26.1 km/s] Update Thursday 2024/03/14 13:10 UTC Sun Mars distance - Starship Try #3 in loading propellant stage

209,933,727 km [26.1 km/s] Update Wednesday 2024/03/13 12:12 UTC Sun Mars distance

210,047,015 km [26.1 km/s] Update Tuesday 2024/03/12 14:08 UTC Sun Mars distance

210,161,969 km [26.1 km/s] Update Monday 2024/03/11 12:08 UTC Sun Mars distance (Daylight Savings Time is in effect in US)
Note: https://cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/ <<Resource suggested by Gemini to help to plan an intercept with Apophis

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211,007,595 km [26.0 km/s] Update Monday 2024/03/04 14:30 UTC Sun Mars distance - Astronomical Month 8 began today

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211,396,072 km [25.9 km/s] Update Friday 2024/03/01 First day of March 13:09 UtC Sun Mars distance

211,522,912 km [25.9 km/s] Update Thursday 2024/02/29 Leap Day on Earth 14:02 UTC Sun Mars distance

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213,688,416 km [25.7 km/s] Update Wednesday 2024/02/14 13:06 Sun Mars Distance - Valentine's Day in the US

213,843,013 km [25.7 km/s] Update Tuesday 2024/02/13 13:11 Sun Mars distance

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Notice: BARD is offering image creation to rival DALL-E

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217,699,942 km [25.2 km/s] Update Sunday 2024/01/21 13:14 UTC Sun/Mars distance NSS meeting featured Axiom Space

217,878,852 km [25.2 km/s] Update Saturday 2024/01/20 13:08 UTC Sun/Mars distance NSS meeting today northhoustonspace.org

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218,420,018 km [25.2 km/s] Update Wednesday 2024/01/17 13:35 UTC Sun/Mars distance - today is a skip day at Mars... Sol 376 repeated

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Update Sunday 2024/01/14 14:25 UTC we are now in Astronomical month 7 Business month 14 of 24

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223,326,119 km [24.6 km/s] Update Friday 13:14 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/12/22 Astronomical 2024 is under way.

223,520,123 km [24.6 km/s] Update Thursday 13:28 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/12/21 Today is Winter Solstice on Earth

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226,054,173 km [24.3 km/s] Update Friday 13:13 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/12/08

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227,030,702 km [24.2 km/s] Update Sunday 13:2 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/12/03 Note BepiColombo

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228,781,237 km [24.0 km/s] Update Friday 15:12 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/24

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229,168,052 km [24.0 km/s] Update Wednesday 13:04 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/22

229,361,080 km [24.0 km/s] Update Tuesday 13:45 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/1121

229,553,856 km [24.0 km/s] Update Monday 13:10 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/20
The Sun has passed out of view in the Mars-Tracker panel

229,746,298 km [23.9 km/s] Update Sunday 13:25 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/19
The Sun and Mars are still visible in the same Tracker panel... The Sun is moving left and will be out of the view tomorrow.

229,938,381 km [23.9 km/s] Update Saturday 13:46 Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/18
SpaceX attempted the second launch of Starship and Starship Heavy today.
Compared to the first attempt, this one appeared to achieve a number of milestones.
The Sun and Mars remain visible in the same display panel at theskylive.com/mars-tracker
This conjunction will next occur in (about) 26 months.

230,130,190 km [23.9 km/s] Update Friday 13:07 Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/17
The Sun is just above and to the right of Mars as seen from Earth at theskylive.com/mars-tracker

230,321,746 km [23.9 km/s] Update Thursday 13:33 Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/16
The Sun and Mars are visible in the same tracker panel at theskylive.com/mars-tracker
This condition is likely to persist for at least a couple of Earth Days.

230,512,812 km [23.9 km/s] Update Wednesday 13:12 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/15
Mars RA 15h 23m 57.7s Dec -18 degrees 42 minutes 14.3 seconds << Mars is passing below the Sun
Sun RA 15h 20m 41.3s Dec -18 degrees 24 minutes 48.1 seconds

230,703,519 km [23.8 km/s] Update Tuesday 13:09 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/14
Mars position is RA 15h 21m 02.5s Declination: -18 degrees 30 minutes 59.4 seconds
Sun position is RA 15h 16m 34.9s Declination: -18 degrees 09 minutes 35.1s
The Sun will soon pass between Mars and Earth, blocking communication
A planetarium showing the conjunction in progress is available: https://theskylive.com/planetarium?obj=mars

230,893,912 km [23.8 km/s] Update Monday 13:27 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/13 (By coincidence, Sol is 313)

231,084,002 km [23.8 km/s] Update Sunday 13:20 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/12

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231,839,719 km [23.7 km/s] Update Wednesday 13:34 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/08

232,214,759 km [23.7 km/s] Update Monday 13:14 UTC Sun/Mars distance 2023/11/06 - Time interval for computations is 25 hours due to time change on Earth

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Update Friday 8:24 local time 12:24 UTC folks are beginning to return to NewMars.com/forums
We would like to thank Dr. Dartnell for kindly providing a point of contact for members while the forum was down.

Update Thursday 8:04 local time 12:04 UtC NewMars.com/forums is back up.

Update on Tuesday 2023/07/18 at 13:32 local time ... kbd512 has received the keys to the NewMars web site. He reports that he is working the problem.
The web site is failing to start. The cause is currently a mystery. kbd512 is building a complete test web site on his own equipment to refresh his knowledge of the software.
There have been a number of updates since he last worked with the software.

Update at 2023/07/18 at 12:04 UTC - a volunteer is negotiating with Mars Society to assist with WebMaster duties.

Update 2023/07/17 at 20:00 UTC ....

The Executive Director of Mars Society has provided access to the NewMars leadership team to use the Professional Zoom account. That should improve reliability of communication during the present emergency.

Today's calendar update: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2189&p=4728#p4728

The Mars Society web sites went down in the week of July 9-15, and while the main site was restored, NewMars.com/forums was not.

In the short term, the leadership team and a few active members are keeping in touch by email.

Zoom meetings will be scheduled. In addition to email invitation, this web site (and this topic in particular) can serve as a point of coordination.

Link to next Zoom meeting at ... time to be provided

The Meeting ID is .... to be provided
Passcode is: ... to be provided

The setup steps completed included:

1) Start Chromebook and log into NewMars account
2) Start Zoom and log in as a member (NewMars)
3) Schedule a meeting
4) Start the meeting
5) Publish ID and Passcode on Knowledge Forum
6) Log in on another machine using published ID and passcode
7) Back at Chromebook, confirm successful connection and admit guest
8) Make guest host
9) Resume session at Guest location
For the record: The version of Zoom on this machine is: 5.12.2(9281)

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[tahanson43206]

Place holder for today's Calendar update:
247,683,318 km [22.1 km/s]

Today is Sol 195 of Year 37 - Earth date is 2023/07/15 Saturday - Mars date is 0037/07/28 Saturday

Members of the NewMars.com/forums are discussing how to proceed. A Zoom meeting is tentatively scheduled for Sunday July 16th.

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Today on Mars: 0037/07/28 Saturday <<-- Days of the week offset 0 with Earth. (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2023/07/14))

Today on Earth: 2023/07/15 Saturday (Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
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Preliminary word is that the NewMars site is backed up and available to be restored, if a volunteer webmaster can be found.

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[tahanson43206]

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Today on Mars: 0037/08/01 Sunday <<-- Days of the week offset 0 with Earth. (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2023/07/14))

Today on Earth: 2023/07/16 Sunday (Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
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Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/time/martian_time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37 Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 4 <<== The Astronomical month will increment when longitude reaches 120 degrees

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Solar Longitude: 091.2 Sol Number: 196 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037196
Solar Longitude: 090.8 Sol Number: 195 Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037195
Solar Longitude: 090.3 Sol Number: 194 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037194 <<== Skip day on Mars plus Alignment-Offset-Zero
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[tahanson43206]

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Today on Mars: 0037/08/02 Monday <<-- Days of the week offset 0 with Earth. (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2023/07/14))

Today on Earth: 2023/07/17 Monday (Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
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Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/time/martian_time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37 Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 4 <<== The Astronomical month will increment when longitude reaches 120 degrees

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Solar Longitude: 091.6 Sol Number: 197 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037197
Solar Longitude: 091.2 Sol Number: 196 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037196
Solar Longitude: 090.8 Sol Number: 195 Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037195
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[tahanson43206]

This is a copy of the Topic post, for the record...

This topic is set up to assist members of the (former) NewMars.com/forums web site.

The Mars Society web sites went down in the week of July 9-15, and while the main site was restored, NewMars.com/forums was not.

In the short term, the leadership team and a few active members are keeping in touch by email.

It is possible the members will decide to meet via Zoom. If that happens, this web site (and this topic in particular) can serve as a point of coordination.

Link to today's Zoom meeting at midnight UTC: Update at 23:05 UTC ... A Zoom session should start in 55 minutes, if all goes well.

The Meeting ID is (removed for security reasons)
Passcode is: (expired)

The meeting is started and the login code verified. At 4 minutes after the hour, we have no one else connected.\
The meeting is set up with a waiting room, and if anyone requests admission they will be admitted immediately.

Update at 20:33 local time ... Zoom just sent a warning that the free meeting will expire in 10 minutes. That's going to be a problem if we stay with the free version.
On the ** other ** hand, Mars Society might be willing to grant us us of their professional account once again.

Updating at 20:31 ... the countdown clock shows less than one minute remaining for the free session ... This free Zoom meeting has ended.

If we had a meeting in progress we could start another session.

As things stand, I'll close the session for this evening.

The setup steps completed included:

1) Start Chromebook and log into NewMars account
2) Start Zoom and log in as a member (NewMars)
3) Schedule a meeting
4) Start the meeting
5) Publish ID and Passcode on Knowledge Forum
6) Log in on another machine using published ID and passcode
7) Back at Chromebook, confirm successful connection and admit guest
8) Make guest host
9) Resume session at Guest location
For the record: The version of Zoom on this machine is: 5.12.2(9281)

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it turned out that kbd512 had started a Zoom session at the same time on another ID.

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[tahanson43206]

247,476,453 km [22.1 km/s]

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Today on Mars: 0037/08/03 Tuesday <<-- Days of the week offset 0 with Earth. (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2023/07/14))

Today on Earth: 2023/07/18 Tuesday (Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
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Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/time/martian_time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37 Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 4 <<== The Astronomical month will increment when longitude reaches 120 degrees

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Solar Longitude: 092.1 Sol Number: 198 Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037198
Solar Longitude: 091.6 Sol Number: 197 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037197
Solar Longitude: 091.2 Sol Number: 196 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037196
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(th)

[tahanson43206]

Update Tuesday evening ...

From kbd512:

Tom,

That's the plan, but I'm going to use the latest version of PHP, make whatever minor edits to the PHP code are required, and see if that works. If it does, then we'll be running on the latest version of PHP, Apache HTTP Server, and MySQL Server Community Edition. Our software configuration is then more supportable, and hopefully has fewer code and security issues, but we'll have to evaluate that through testing. That only leaves us with older / unsupported forum software, but updated to the point that it runs on the latest stable release of all required software. Tonight's first task is to install / create the database objects using my experimental version of the fluxBB forum software (only code changes made thus far are getting rid of deprecated syntax for arrays). I stopped last night after I installed and configured the MySQL database server.


Thanks,
Brian

(th)

[tahanson43206]

247,404,669 km [22.1 km/s]
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Today on Mars: 0037/08/04 Wednesday <<-- Days of the week offset 0 with Earth. (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2023/07/14))

Today on Earth: 2023/07/19 Wednesday (Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
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Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/time/martian_time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37 Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 4 <<== The Astronomical month will increment when longitude reaches 120 degrees

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Solar Longitude: 092.5 Sol Number: 199 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037199
Solar Longitude: 092.1 Sol Number: 198 Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037198
Solar Longitude: 091.6 Sol Number: 197 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037197
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(th)

[tahanson43206]

From kbd512:

All,

I can see the error messages all over the log files- hundreds if not thousands of the same error message reported in the Apache HTTP Server logs by the first PHP file executed on the server. It's the same error that I encountered on my version of fluxBB before I fixed my copy of the fluxBB PHP code. I'm using a PHP version that is at or after 7.4. The people who created fluxBB or last modified it, used curly braces here and there (not always, but sometimes) to address array elements in their PHP files. In PHP 7.4 and later, curly braces "$my_array{0}" are not permitted to be used to address array elements in PHP code. The fix is as simple as changing the PHP code from "$my_array{0}" to "$my_array[0]". The latter syntax for addressing an array element is exactly what the syntax looks like for addressing array elements in JavaScript, minus the dollar sign prefix used by PHP to indicate that the identifier is a variable.

On my Apache HTTP Server, every PHP file containing this deprecated array syntax absolutely will fail to execute as soon as the PHP interpreter hits that line of code, so PHP then throws an error message. Said error message will not necessarily generate a valid HTTP response after execution fails. Sometimes it will generate an error sent through to the client's browser as a HTTP response from the web server, and sometimes won't, but the log file tells the story like it is. In point of fact, this is the error message I see in the log files on the server. It is possible to use multiple versions of PHP on the same machine, but I don't think that's what we're doing. In point of fact, I know that's not what we're doing, because we're seeing these error messages in the web server log files.

This is what the following command returns on the server:
Command: php --version
PHP 7.4.30 (cli) (built: Sep 13 2022 05:02:03) ( NTS )
Copyright (c) The PHP Group
Zend Engine v3.4.0, Copyright (c) Zend Technologies
with Zend OPcache v7.4.30, Copyright (c), by Zend Technologies

This is the very first fatal error message I received after I attempted to load / bring up fluxBB on my server using the latest version of PHP:
Commands to view logged PHP fatal errors (logged by Apache HTTP Server):
cd /home/newmars/logs/newmars.com
vi error.log
[Tue Jul 18 00:27:02.173625 2023] [fcgid:warn] [pid 561895:tid 140042736293632] [client 195.191.219.133:46832] mod_fcgid: stderr: PHP Fatal error: Array and string offset access syntax with curly braces is no longer supported in /home/newmars/newmars.com/forums/include/functions.php on line 1806

From functions.php
//
// Fetch a list of available styles
//
function forum_list_styles()
{
$styles = array();

$d = dir(PUN_ROOT.'style');
while (($entry = $d->read()) !== false)
{
if ($entry{0} == '.')
continue;

if (substr($entry, -4) == '.css')
$styles[] = substr($entry, 0, -4);
}
$d->close();

natcasesort($styles);

return $styles;
}

"$entry{0}" should be changed to "$entry[0]". After you do that, then it will fail in a different place or totally different file. When that happens, you find and fix the next instance of deprecated array addressing syntax, until you've corrected them all. The Apache web server logs will let you know, even if the web browser doesn't. If we absolutely have to, then we'll enable extra logging in PHP, but thus far I haven't had to do that. I learn about which files have "bad syntax" by visiting them on my web server. For most of these files, you can search and replace using a regular expression.

Bottom line is this:
I fixed it in my copy of fluxBB by fixing the deprecated array addressing syntax in the fluxBB PHP files so the latest versions of PHP don't throw fatal errors.
The alternative is reverting back to a version of PHP before 7.4.
Our tertiary option is running multiple copies of PHP and configuring environment variables appropriately so that the other web apps running on the same server are not adversely affected. I don't like this option, but I'll do it, if required.

I'm going to tell Mr Burk what I found and see if he's okay with me fixing the files in-place. I'll make backup copies before I edit them. I'm also going to ask if PHP was recently updated to serve the needs of some other web apps we have running on that server.


Thanks,
Brian

(th)

[tahanson43206]

247,331,493 km [22.2 km/s]

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No news has arrived this morning ... recovery of NewMars is still in progress

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Today on Mars: 0037/08/05 Thursday <<-- Days of the week offset 0 with Earth. (count from Mars to Earth (updated 2023/07/14))

Today on Earth: 2023/07/20 Thursday (Earth Date) Post Title: Today on Mars [Aphelion occurred May 30, 2023 Earth Calendar]
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Per http://www-mars.lmd.jussieu.fr/mars/time/martian_time.html also see: in-the-sky.org for opposition/perigee/aphelion

Martian Year: 37 Martian Astronomical Month in 12 month format: 4 <<== The Astronomical month will increment when longitude reaches 120 degrees

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Solar Longitude: 093.0 Sol Number: 200 Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037200
Solar Longitude: 092.5 Sol Number: 199 Change in degrees is +.4 Julian date is: J0037199
Solar Longitude: 092.1 Sol Number: 198 Change in degrees is +.5 Julian date is: J0037198
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(th)